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3000's picture
#27

Yeah this seems like a big deal about nothing.

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melbourne's picture
#28

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Adam Ford's picture
#29

I don't care how much sense it makes for ANZ's logistics.
We built thoroughfares at street level, not private carriageways in the air that magically require the purchase of no actual land. Otherwise known as rent-seeking.

Because we're a city, not a jobs park.

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Michael Berquez's picture
#30

It's their (ANZ's) buildings...surely they can do whatever they want to make working life easier for their staff. Hard to believe that anyone would get up in arms over this.
Remind me exactly Adam how you genuinely feel this will impact anybody's life in any negative way whatsoever.

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3000's picture
#31

Adam, I know this is a sore point for you.
But is "sidewalks exist for a reason!" the best you have here?
I hope you don't think that by taking the sky bridge away here it'll create some yuppie utopia where everyone collaborates in the street and Docklands is suddenly saved. What about the new police HQ?
There is one proposed there as well. Will this cause Melbourne to be doomed as well?

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#32

Otherwise known as rent-seeking.

That's not what rent seeking is. Not even almost.

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melbourne's picture
#33

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melbourne's picture
#34

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#35

well, maybe that IS a form of rent-seeking...ANZ do not own the land below the proposed skybridge...but for no cost have proposed a plan that will, in effect, give them air rights over that said public land. The proposed skybridge will not be a public amenity and thus there is no public value. Therefore ANZ have secured a large private benefit from the public realm for which they have paid no real or intangible cost or offset. Appropriate use of that term is this application.

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redden's picture
#36

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theboynoodle's picture
#37

well, maybe that IS a form of rent-seeking...ANZ do not own the land below the proposed skybridge...but for no cost have proposed a plan that will, in effect, give them air rights over that said public land. The proposed skybridge will not be a public amenity and thus there is no public value. Therefore ANZ have secured a large private benefit from the public realm for which they have paid no real or intangible cost or offset. Appropriate use of that term is this application.

No. It really isn't. They may well have secured a benefit without paying for it.. but that isn't what rent is. Rent requires someone to be paying *them*.. rent seeking is the monopolization of something which someone else is then required to pay you for. This bridge might be a bad thing, but it's not *that* bad thing and you really are dealing with economic concepts that were written down and settled upon quite some time ago.

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redden's picture
#38

2 cranes and a core now.

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redden's picture
#39

GlennWilson has just posted this. Three cranes for 21L is a surprise.

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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=142139723#post142139723

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3000's picture
#40

Will this have some active frontages along Collins? The other ANZ building kind of tanks the area at street level.
I saw the towers that went up next to this recently in person and I think it is actually a halfway decent outcome providing the retail gets up and running.

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will west's picture
#41

do lendlease have their own cranes? they have quite a few cranes going around if its all theirs

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Mark Baljak's picture
#42

Caelli tower cranes. Caelli, Form 700 and I&D throw as many cranes at a job as they can for thew sake of a speedy build

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melbourne's picture
#43

DOCKLANDS | 839 Collins Street | 21L | CommercialIMG_8252 by Ryan Seychell, on Flickr

DOCKLANDS | 839 Collins Street | 21L | CommercialIMG_8244 by Ryan Seychell, on Flickr

DOCKLANDS | 839 Collins Street | 21L | CommercialIMG_8242 by Ryan Seychell, on Flickr

DOCKLANDS | 839 Collins Street | 21L | CommercialIMG_8241 by Ryan Seychell, on Flickr

DOCKLANDS | 839 Collins Street | 21L | CommercialIMG_8240 by Ryan Seychell, on Flickr

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#45

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melbourne's picture
#46

Did the bridge end up getting approved?

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#47

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#48

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#49

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redden's picture
#50

This one is flying up. Nobody seems to know about the bridge yet.

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#51

Your pics are missing Mark, so I'll post these.

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