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Adam Ford's picture
#27

I like that Cretinface Wood's idea of an "exmplar development" is one that demolishes an entire streetscape of listed heritage buildings that it's his job to be protecting just so Council doesn't get left with a stranded asset after only having one bidder for the site.

Nothing at all corrupt about this in any way.

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Bingo Bango Boingo's picture
#28

An entire streetscape is not being demolished. Buildings either side of the demolished buildings will be retained, as will all of the buildings on the other side of the street.

It also isn't a Councillor's, or the Council's, job to protect buildings per se. In this context their job is to oversee the use of land within the city's borders in the public interest. The law contemplates that Council will, consistent with the public interest, approve the demolition of buildings previously recognised as having some (in this case, very limited) heritage value.

Also, corruption describes a situation where a public official dishonestly abuses their position to obtain a private benefit. It doesn't describe a situation where a public body makes a decision directly for its own benefit, or indirectly in the public interest.

In short, nothing in your comment is accurate or sensible.

Is it any wonder that heritage advocates have almost no influence on planning in this town?

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db2's picture
#29

It seem like Adam Ford wants to live in a museum where nothing changes. I suggest he move to Paris.

In the real world, some old stuff needs to make way for new stuff. This is an excellent development and will be massive improvement. I am glad that all stake-holders have worked at a good outcome.

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Primal Beauty's picture
#30

Why relocate that far when he can move just a short drive to Sovereign Hill, Ballarat, and he can dress in one of those period costumes to blend in... we will all come and visit!

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Chris Seals's picture
#31

Lol, Beautifully said Primal, maybe one could fill a position as a heritage protector of the surrounding caves, who knows, the caves could once have been the communal dunny, Time to move on to a more sanitized time. Cities are a dynamic thing that need to move on, relics remain just that, reflecting the morality of the times, a dictate from a book much in question.Thank goD we have moved on to a more rational period which will be questionable in the future, Its evolution by design.

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Garmatt's picture
#32

Even Paris has embraced the modern.

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redden's picture
#33

The Mercat Cross building is boarded up, and the gantry was going up today, so things are gradually progressing.

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redden's picture
#34

I couldn't get a pic, but, if you look through the windows of the old shops, you can see that demo is well under way at the rear. The awnings have already been removed along Therry Street.

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Adam Ford's picture
#35

"heritage people want to live in a museum" o what an original and demonstrably non-rhetorical argument. And yes, heritage activists have so little influence in this town that Council has just listed several hundred buildings in the most comprehensive heritage review undertaken since 1984. Muppet.

It flipping well IS Council's job to protect the heritage buildings that it has itself listed. Literally and definitionally. Why would it have listed them otherwise?

Anyway, thanks for documenting the travesty, Redden - although I wouldn't call it 'progress' myself.

To revisit the argument - these buildings are supposed to be protected, and Council has now created a precedent whereby a developer with a C-graded heritage building on site can stump up to council and say "well you allowed YOURSELVES to demolish these other C graded structures, so I am now de facto entitled to a demolition permit too." It very actively undermines the entire validity of heritage protection across the entirety of metropolitan Melbourne. You are NOT supposed to be allowed to demolish C graded structures FULL STOP.

If Council had no active interest in this site, they would never have approved demolition, whether that's grade three debating tactic textbook definition of corruption or not, is not a bulldust semantic argument I'm even interested in entering in to.

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redden's picture
#36

It's a surprisingly big site, once you get into it. The last pic is the laneway connecting to Franklin Street.

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Adrian's picture
#37

Wow I can't believe that whole thing is gone - I gotta admit I totally didn't realise it was going having now moved out of the area for the time being.

I share a bit of Adam's anger at least about the old Mercat Hotel facade going but really have to agree that overall this is huge improvement for a very important site - the use of brick on the new podium tempers what has been demolished and adding new laneways to Melbourne must always be applauded.

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redden's picture
#38

Looking at the render, I think that the Mercat Cross façade is basically being retained, with an upward addition containing a rooftop terrace. Render courtesy of Grollo.

Big render:

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redden's picture
#39

The Therry Street shops are down, but the Mercat Cross façade is still intact.

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redden's picture
#40

Most of the rubble has gone.

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Bilby's picture
#41

So much of Melbourne's heritage gone in one sweeping demolition. Few will look proudly on this moment in even a decade from now.

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Aussie Steve's picture
#42

Wish the City of Melbourne had their hands on the remainder of the properties on Queen Sr, north of Franklin St, to include as part of this development.

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