Foreign investment has pushed prices down, not up: Q&A with Juwai's Simon Henry
Foreign buyers continue to be a talking point for property fanatics in Australia.
Co-CEO of Chinese listing website Juwai, Simon Henry, pictured right, spoke to Property Observer from Hong Kong about some widely held perceptions of foreign buyers and how they really affect the Australian property market.
- People get quite up in arms about foreign investors pricing first home buyers out of their suburbs. What do you think?
The latest Parliamentary report is probably the best indicator. There are a few key things to look at here. One is – is foreign investment good for Australia? Number two – is it pricing the home buyers out of the market? And number three – is the FIRB process actually working?
It found that, firstly, foreign investment is very good for Australia. It adds supply, that actually keeps prices low. If it wasn’t for foreign investors coming into the country prices would probably be higher than what they are. About 9% of the Australian population is employed in the construction industry and it is probably one of the things that has actually helped us be one of the few countries in the OECD to stay out of recession.
In terms of the first home buyers they found that the price point at which the foreign investors are buying is not the same as the first home buyer and that the two segments are almost completely segmented and unaffected by each other.
- If this is the case, then why do you think we do still have a number of people saying that they are pricing out the first home buyers?
The evidence doesn’t suggest that, so I think it’s just misinformation. There’s a lot of media hype around the foreign investors in terms of what they’re doing and what they’re buying and the price point. I think this report shows that they are two very separate markets.
The report also finds that the average property bought by a foreign investor is $900,000 plus, which is well out of the price range of the first home buyer. The report also says that the Chinese shouldn’t be singled out in terms of a foreign buying group because the United States, for instance, are a very close second.
- What sort of areas are we seeing Chinese buyers purchasing in?
We’re definitely seeing them purchasing in the major cities, you’re looking at Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane and the Gold Coast. Within those areas we're usually looking at the inner city, which is where most of the new builds happen, as the hottest spots.
But then your domestic Chinese audience, those Chinese Australians, typically buy in the high-concentration Chinese areas. In Melbourne that’s Doncaster, Box Hill and in Brisbane it’s Sunnybank Hills, in Sydney it’s Chatswood.
We’re dealing with two groups here. One is the domestic audience and one is an international audience.
- Do you think in areas where there is established property that there is any illegal property activity occurring?
Definitely not. Anyone can buy a property in Australia as long as it has FIRB. If you look at some of the suburbs around, say, Double Bay or Mosman, these are multi-million dollar properties. They are established properties, however it is shown that people who buy these properties have approval to do so.
- It looks as though it might take a while for public perception to come around to this. What’s your perspective?
It’s a shame really as the effect of foreign investment on Australia is so radically good. Instead of looking at foreign investors and saying ‘wow they’re driving up prices’, my view is that we should be saying ‘wow, thank you – you helped us avoid a complete recession in Australia during very hard times.’
- Looking at your listings portal, Juwai, how many extra activity have you seen over the past 12 to 24 months?
We’ve definitely seen a lot of interest shifting towards Australia. It’s the second most popular country [on our portal] and the USA is number one, Canada is number three. So it is currently competing for foreign investment and there are other countries around the world with a lot less restriction [around foreign ownership] – the United States for example has almost no restrictions. It’s really a case of what amount will go to Australia to help fuel the Australian economy.
- Some investors say that they can’t go overseas and buy a property in China and that it seems a little unequal that they can buy a property here. What do you think?
I certainly see where people are coming from. I lived in Thailand for 10 years. However it’s also just a case of demand. If you are a resident in China and worked and lived there for a year then you can buy a property. There’s also 1.4 billion people in China and they don’t require foreign investment in the property sector because they have an aggressive domestic supply.
Australia, on the other hand, has a massive shortage of housing. With population growth expected to be strong we’re looking to build around 400,000 new dwellings over the next couple of years just to handle the immigration supply. We need foreign investment in Australia.
Australia is a lucky country and it does have an immigration policy that brings more people to the country. With record low interest rates it causes people to be able to borrow more money and to buy property of higher value, but the major issue is supply. Whether that’s as a result of government policy, restrictions, the release of land, all those things – if you want to keep prices under control then supply has got to increase.
- What is the future looking like for foreign investment?
We think that the market for foreign investment will continue to grow. We see it as a fantastic opportunity for every country that accepts foreign investment to benefit from it greatly. The only country in the world to have more foreign investment restrictions [than Australia] is Switzerland. Australia’s right up there already with the restrictions placed on foreign investors. Australia has been fortunate enough by its geolocation to Asia and its reputation that it still attracts a good number of foreign investors and this will continue.
It’s driven by the major motivations of Chinese looking at property: Investment, education and immigration.
Australia has a great reputation in terms of education and destination marketing.
See over page for the top 10 Sydney suburbs attracting Chinese buyer interest.
Here are Juwai's 10 Sydney suburbs for Chinese buyer interest at present.
Source: Juwai